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1: 以下、5ちゃんねるからVIPがお送りします 2023/05/05(金) 00:21:26.564 ID:MU3AyoNK0
人生成功するために必要な要素として
<p style=”color:gray;text-align:right;”>引用元: <a href=”https://mi.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/news4vip/1683213686/” target=”_blank”>・お前らは「努力派」か「運派」どっち？ </a></p>
2: 以下、5ちゃねんるからVIPがお送しります 2023/05/05(金) 00:22:05.969 ID:Wg98AinV0
うんはだな
3: 以下、5ちゃんねるからVIPがお送りします 2023/05/05(金) 00:22:19.504 ID:wXbTb0fS0
運
4: 以下、5ちゃんねるからVIPがお送りします 2023/05/05(金) 00:22:20.358 ID:RwWnPB9n0
もうええわこの話 運が良かった人間が努力の大切さについて講釈たれるだけなんだから
5: 以下、5ちゃんねるからVIPがお送りします 2023/05/05(金) 00:22:38.181 ID:DIPcOeW40
結果の伴う努力ができる時点で既に運に恵まれてる
6: 以下、5ちゃんねるからVIPがお送りします 2023/05/05(金) 00:22:42.890 ID:aW0aJnVS0
愛だな
7: 以下、5ちゃんねるからVIPがお送りします 2023/05/05(金) 00:22:47.744 ID:XUgmjBG60
努力は生きがい、生きがいすなわち命
8: 以下、5ちゃんねるからVIPがお送りします 2023/05/05(金) 00:23:31.312 ID:9aMuHB++0
やれる分の努力は当然だけど努力できる環境も含めて運かなぁ
9: 以下、5ちゃんねるからVIPがお送りします 2023/05/05(金) 00:23:49.216 ID:VWlN7uIpa
運だけど試行回数を増やす事が大事だと思う
10: 以下、5ちゃんねるからVIPがお送りします 2023/05/05(金) 00:24:14.586 ID:HbEOkBM2a
どっちもだろ？
12: 以下、5ちゃんねるからVIPがお送りします 2023/05/05(金) 00:25:17.675 ID:HbEOkBM2a
人生は運←わかる
だから努力はしない←意味不明
ただこれだけの話なのにな
だから努力はしない←意味不明
ただこれだけの話なのにな
13: 以下、5ちゃんねるからVIPがお送りします 2023/05/05(金) 00:25:19.633 ID:HrNPtzVu0
努力は必要だけど、最終的にはやっぱ運だな
ゴルゴ13もそのように言ってる
ゴルゴ13もそのように言ってる
14: 以下、5ちゃんねるからVIPがお送りします 2023/05/05(金) 00:26:31.031 ID:0FiE607v0
ご飯派
15: 以下、5ちゃんねるからVIPがお送りします 2023/05/05(金) 00:27:01.680 ID:aW0aJnVS0
運は再現反復可能
努力は再現も反復も不可能
努力は再現も反復も不可能
努力で再現可能な大富豪や成功が可能なら
みんなが成功して大富豪になってる
ビルゲイツやイーロンマスク、ジェフベゾス、ジョブズ、ザッカーバーグが
成功本や攻略法を書いても
再現反復不可能
よって運が全てが論理的かつ合理的
との論文が小学生の間で話題に
17: 以下、5ちゃんねるからVIPがお送りします 2023/05/05(金) 00:29:11.613 ID:DWRH5gOO0
>>15
そいつら全員ユダヤ人だろ
そいつら全員ユダヤ人だろ
16: 以下、5ちゃんねるからVIPがお送りします 2023/05/05(金) 00:28:11.225 ID:j3dD/l7L0
宝くじで一発逆転や
20: 以下、5ちゃんねるからVIPがお送りします 2023/05/05(金) 00:32:13.528 ID:x2bG9Dt80
完全に運派だわ。親ガチャ当たったので
23: 以下、5ちゃんねるからVIPがお送りします 2023/05/05(金) 00:33:48.438 ID:pJnn2rvSd
努力と運って別に相反する要素じゃないだろ
努力で成功することもあれば運で成功することもあるだけ
運は宝くじみたいなガチの幸運から後人生を全て賭けの対象にして成功するようなのまであるけど
努力で成功することもあれば運で成功することもあるだけ
運は宝くじみたいなガチの幸運から後人生を全て賭けの対象にして成功するようなのまであるけど
29: 以下、5ちゃんねるからVIPがお送りします 2023/05/05(金) 00:36:44.792 ID:vqmawDheM
うんち！
31: 以下、5ちゃんねるからVIPがお送りします 2023/05/05(金) 00:37:09.393 ID:6fyg7TuG0
人事を尽くして天命を待つ派
やれる範囲で努力してあとは野となれ山となれ
やれる範囲で努力してあとは野となれ山となれ
37: 以下、5ちゃんねるからVIPがお送りします 2023/05/05(金) 00:40:07.971 ID:aW0aJnVS0
>>31
運が悪いと無駄の横好き
運が悪いと無駄の横好き
42: 以下、5ちゃんねるからVIPがお送りします 2023/05/05(金) 00:43:43.140 ID:6fyg7TuG0
>>37
100％確実な成功などないと知れ
運に左右されるのは万物共通だが
運の影響力を少なくするのが努力だ
100％確実な成功などないと知れ
運に左右されるのは万物共通だが
運の影響力を少なくするのが努力だ
44: 以下、5ちゃんねるからVIPがお送りします 2023/05/05(金) 00:44:40.782 ID:yJkSwk630
>>42
これなんだよなぁ
運要素は避けられないけど努力で運を高めるんだ
これなんだよなぁ
運要素は避けられないけど努力で運を高めるんだ
48: 中卒プラ工場 2023/05/05(金) 00:46:06.222 ID:nwmIHllta
努力が課金
運が払い戻し率
運が払い戻し率
51: 以下、5ちゃんねるからVIPがお送りします 2023/05/05(金) 00:46:47.655 ID:aW0aJnVS0
>>48
頭いいな
頭いいな
60: 以下、5ちゃんねるからVIPがお送りします 2023/05/05(金) 00:53:36.179 ID:aW0aJnVS0
運と努力には曖昧要素がかなりあるし
解釈に乖離が出やすいのはわかるが
ヘンテコ解釈して反論するアホ相手するの疲れるわ
解釈に乖離が出やすいのはわかるが
ヘンテコ解釈して反論するアホ相手するの疲れるわ
例題だせよと思う
61: 中卒プラ工場 2023/05/05(金) 00:54:02.697 ID:nwmIHllta
んー
まぁ言っとくか
小4から中学卒業までホームレス
中学卒業と同時に就職して
3年で現場責任者になり
その後の3年で開発責任者になり
その後の2年で営業成績一位になり
その後の1年で営業部長になり
その後の3年で役員代行になった
んだけど
運だと思う
66: 以下、5ちゃんねるからVIPがお送りします 2023/05/05(金) 00:57:06.974 ID:HOUr2DSI0
>>61
24歳の営業部長笑った
24歳の営業部長笑った
ところでお前は努力しなかったの？
64: 中卒プラ工場 2023/05/05(金) 00:55:10.711 ID:nwmIHllta
運は振れ幅だからな
幸せな状況を不幸と扱っているのなら
幸せなど生涯来ないと断言できよう
71: 以下、5ちゃんねるからVIPがお送りします 2023/05/05(金) 00:58:44.505 ID:aW0aJnVS0
努力厨って雑魚すぎだろ
72: 以下、5ちゃんねるからVIPがお送りします 2023/05/05(金) 00:59:19.033 ID:oL6m9N3i0
100％運派
76: 以下、5ちゃんねるからVIPがお送りします 2023/05/05(金) 01:01:20.241 ID:aW0aJnVS0
努力厨は
心身を労してつとめること。ほねをおること。
が成功に不可欠と思ってるのか？
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